Episode 12 - Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Interrupt me drinking from my broken cup and ask me to open up the gate for you. Okay, I'm gonna start talking over this because Spotify is gonna start, like, flagging us for copyright infringement. Welcome, everybody, to a special addendum episode. Right? Maybe not an addendum episode. [00:00:18] Speaker B: A special fan request. [00:00:20] Speaker A: Special fan request. That. That really fit in with our last episode, which was about Better Man. We decided to watch Walk Hard, the Dewey Cox story, because it is a comedy that skewers bio music biopic conventions pretty thoroughly, and Better man decided to step into every one of those cliches that they thoroughly made fun of and I thought would just make it impossible to do again. But Better Man's like it. We're doing it. So we're going to talk about Walk Hard today. Who are we? I am Paul Klein, and across from [00:00:53] Speaker C: me is Stephanie Caplano. [00:00:55] Speaker A: And then Alex, I actually would like to introduce you because I have a new nickname for you, and I'm very proud of it. [00:01:00] Speaker B: Oh, geez. Okay. [00:01:01] Speaker A: Alexander Graham Bello. [00:01:03] Speaker B: You know what? I can live with that one. [00:01:06] Speaker A: That was perfect. I can live with that one. Really? How does it feel to invent the telephone? [00:01:11] Speaker B: It feels great. At least steal the idea. [00:01:13] Speaker A: Steal the credit for inventing the telephone. Okay, so did we. I don't know if I told people what the podcast is. I did say what the title was, right? I said, watch this at the beginning. Right? Stephanie doesn't know. She's looking at me like she's not here. We both have monster sodas with. It's really cool how. How gender specific our cans are. Like, yours is pink, mine is blue. [00:01:32] Speaker C: Mine has flowers on it. [00:01:34] Speaker A: Mine has. Oh, like tiki gods on it. Cool. Oh, and hula girls. You guys never watched. Wait, this is going to hurt so bad. You guys never watched Freakazoid, did you? [00:01:45] Speaker B: No. [00:01:46] Speaker A: You guys ever heard of Freakazoid? No. Freakazoid. It lasted for two seasons, but that's for Saturday morning cartoons. That usually is about 60 episodes. It was like a Warner Brothers. It was. It was kind of a spin off. It was the same kind of group of people who did Animaniacs and Tiny Toons, and it's great. It's very funny. And there's a whole episode where he's helping Bill Clinton out of a jam in Hawaii. And. And every time he's looking for him with his binoculars, he keeps seeing. He's like, oh, okay, I see the island. I see this. I see hula girls. And there's, like, hula girls there. So my friend And I always go like, hula girls. Yeah. Freak is what's great. [00:02:20] Speaker B: Oh, I have seen that, though. [00:02:22] Speaker C: It does look familiar. [00:02:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:23] Speaker A: Okay. [00:02:24] Speaker B: The brain guy. I've seen him before. [00:02:26] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a good show. You ever come across it? I think maybe on YouTube. Maybe it's not. I don't know. [00:02:31] Speaker B: I'm really mad right now because I just remembered another Bob Dylan song that would have been even better for. For the purpose of this podcast. And I'm really disappointed because in that song, he says, you see a midget and he's standing there. Yeah. [00:02:44] Speaker A: Yeah, he does, actually. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, the movie kind of skewers. I mean, like, we said bio, music, music, bios, but it's kind of taking on two people. It's taking on the Johnny Cash biopic. It just escapes my mind right now. Walk the line. [00:02:59] Speaker B: Walk the line. [00:02:59] Speaker A: That's where the walk comes from. I loathed that one. I thought it was the most loathed in the sense that it was just the most. Most. It was so generic. It was so generic. And I was so glad that Walk Hard kind of skewered it. And also, they don't skewer a movie because it didn't exist at the time. But they're sort of. Sort of having him be sort of like a combination of Johnny Cash for the most part, and Bob Dylan. [00:03:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:20] Speaker A: Which is why we played Bob Dylan at the beginning and why Alex is now questioning what Bob Dylan song to play. And also there is a scene in the movie where he sings a protest song. What was it? Help out the midgets or. [00:03:31] Speaker B: Yeah, it was like. Yeah, he was. He. He was basically saying how there's so many oppressed people, men, you know, something, something. And then. And then he says, like, the least oppressed groups, actually. And then he goes, midgets. Yeah, yeah, [00:03:45] Speaker A: We. Where do we want to start with Walk Hard? Let me check my notes. [00:03:52] Speaker C: I feel like first we have to give a shout out to Jessica. [00:03:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:55] Speaker A: Nah, fuck that. [00:03:56] Speaker B: Our loyal listener, our loyal fan who [00:03:58] Speaker A: recommended this movie and actually paid for the rental. It should be said she paid for us to watch it, not that she bribed us with it. I said, we're going to watch it first, or we agreed that we're going to watch it first. And then suddenly she just was like, oh, no, I already rented it for you. So. Okay, fine. Props to Jessica. I feel you guys didn't get the harassment I did to. To watch one of her movies, and I feel like we didn't give in to her, it was just. It made perfect sense this time. And if it find. If it also shut her up, then good, you know, So I just took that and I twisted it into like a really bad. [00:04:30] Speaker C: Woo, Jessica. [00:04:31] Speaker A: Woo Jessica. But shut up, please. We did one of your movies. Can you leave us alone now? No. It's funny. I was talking to my brother on Monday, and it's so funny. Whenever I mentioned the podcast to people, they always tell me, you should do this movie. And it's always something that I'm like, the fuck out of here. He was like, you should do Space Battleship, Yamamoto. And I was like, good. We're good. [00:04:50] Speaker B: Put it in the bowl. [00:04:50] Speaker A: I'm putting in the bowl. Yeah. Because, like, nothing I put in gets picked anyway. [00:04:54] Speaker B: You know what? [00:04:55] Speaker A: What? [00:04:55] Speaker B: Actually, I did the math today because I was looking at our episodes. We're at 12 episodes right now. So you and I both have had only three movies selected. So you had. Our first movie was Toxic Avenger. Was no. Hundreds of Beavers. [00:05:09] Speaker A: Oh, okay. That was. That was pre bold, though. [00:05:11] Speaker B: Yeah, it was pre bowl. To be fair. It was pre bowl. But you have three episodes of movies that you've picked. I have three of movies that I've picked. And you have five. [00:05:19] Speaker A: The. Is that. [00:05:20] Speaker B: So who's the real problem here? [00:05:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:21] Speaker C: Not even. I think that's fair. [00:05:23] Speaker A: No, that's not fair. What were the five movies that. [00:05:25] Speaker B: Okay, so you had the substance, the lure. I'm blanking. Midsommar Better Man. And then there was another one that was also you. [00:05:35] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:05:36] Speaker B: You see how much we know our own episodes of our podcast. [00:05:39] Speaker A: It's been a long day, and we spent about two hours in hell, almost literally. We were doing a lesson on Dante's Inferno. [00:05:49] Speaker C: Yes. [00:05:49] Speaker A: And fascinating stuff. And never did a deeper reading of Dante's Inferno, so it was cool to go through it. But geez, after 2 hours, 2 hours and 15, I think of just imagining hell and people think in agony in different torturous situations. I'm. I'm a little like, I need some levity. So when we were like, I think Stephanie, she's like, are we recording today? I was like, yes. Yeah. [00:06:14] Speaker C: And I appreciate the class so much. But even after that long, I had to pee and eat desperately. [00:06:19] Speaker B: Same Desperately. [00:06:21] Speaker A: There was just no sense of it ending. Like, I was like, oh, my God. I kept looking at my watch and I'm like, when are we going to record? I have to eat. I have to go to the bathroom. [00:06:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:27] Speaker A: And. And then he's like, should we. You know, Are you guys okay? And. And I kind of wanted to say. I just didn't want to be the first one guy to say, but I. I'm. I'm good to go. [00:06:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:35] Speaker A: And then he's like, hey, we'll do. We'll do two more Circles of Hell. And I'm like, oh, God, no. Every circle takes so long. I'm going to blame Soul because. Okay, yeah. Cuz Soul just doesn't stop talking and, and just keeps like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then this keeps everything going longer than it needs to. And I was like, yeah, we, we know you're smart. You don't have to keep talking. I mean, look at me. I would just make a comment here and there and then shut up. [00:06:58] Speaker C: I don't know if you guys noticed, but the whole, the whole second part of it, my leg was like shaking. [00:07:02] Speaker A: Oh, no, I didn't, because I was [00:07:03] Speaker C: like, I was like, I need to use the bathroom. [00:07:04] Speaker A: Oh, you should just go. [00:07:05] Speaker C: This is for me. [00:07:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:06] Speaker C: I cannot leave. [00:07:07] Speaker A: Yeah, you can. Yeah, yeah, you can. [00:07:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I noticed your leg shaking after he was like. Oh, what was it that he said? It was like after we finished, he added something else to the class that wasn't part of the book. Oh, when he was giving you your assignment. [00:07:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:20] Speaker B: I thought you were just really nervous. Now we know you just had to go pee. [00:07:24] Speaker A: Make a pee pee. Yeah, yeah. You got to just. I learned that the hard way because I would. You know, as you guys know, we have these marathon lately. Three and a half hour staff meetings. [00:07:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:33] Speaker A: And. And I would hold it the whole time. And I was like, no, no, no, I don't want to. I don't want to stop the meeting. And then like today I was like, no, I'm going. Yeah. Like, I was like, I can't. I can't do this. [00:07:40] Speaker B: So. [00:07:41] Speaker A: No, no, your comfort comes first. [00:07:43] Speaker B: Yep. [00:07:44] Speaker A: If you want to point at me and go, paul has to pee, that's fine. Yeah, yeah, just yell. It just looks like Paul has to pee. I'm gonna make this face as if I'm actually peeing for you listeners at home. I just made like a vaguely looking off into the middle distance, smiling. [00:08:03] Speaker B: I've never seen you make that face. No, it's probably because it's your pee face. [00:08:08] Speaker A: Okay, I snorted. Yeah, that's good. [00:08:12] Speaker C: You just can't imagine being like, guys pause to pee and then I run away. Everyone look at Paul. [00:08:19] Speaker A: Then I just pee my pants right there. [00:08:22] Speaker C: Paul, distract them. [00:08:23] Speaker A: Paul has to pee. He's peeing. Right now, I think this sort of juvenile, Juvenile Juvenalia is juvenile humor fits this podcast perfectly. Especially when we're talking about Walk Hard, which is a very juvenile minded comedy. Though I really do think that there is some, there's some really clever things in there. [00:08:41] Speaker C: Very raunchy humor. [00:08:43] Speaker A: Very raunchy humor. I wish they kind of would have gone further with it overall. Still kind of my sense, like, I think they kind of skirted and like, and I get why, you know, like, they didn't want to go full raunch, but I, I think, I think they could have gone. [00:08:56] Speaker C: I think they, they, they do fine. They got there. [00:08:59] Speaker A: They get there. [00:08:59] Speaker C: I don't know what you're watching, Paul, but for me, that was pretty. [00:09:03] Speaker A: I will, I will point out there's a scene, you know, when, when the whole joke is just all the naked people. [00:09:12] Speaker C: I hated that so much. [00:09:13] Speaker A: I, I, well, okay, I'm gonna tell you. I. Over spring break, I watched pop star Never Stop. Never stopping. Yeah, that was the, the lonely, the Lonely island guy. Boys. Island crew. Lonely island crew, Right? The guys from Saturday Night Live. [00:09:26] Speaker B: Okay. [00:09:27] Speaker A: Adam, Sam. [00:09:29] Speaker B: Sandberg. [00:09:30] Speaker A: Sandberg, yeah. Not, not sand, not sound like Sandberg and his crew. And there is a scene that I probably shouldn't tell you. I should just show it to you. But then it's like me showing you. [00:09:40] Speaker B: Genitalia. [00:09:41] Speaker A: Yeah, genitalia. They, they do a whole thing where, where he, he's in the car with his bandmates and they're always saying, like, you know, you're, they're basically like, like breaking up sort of thing. They're also making fun of, of the music biopics and, and he's trying to ignore them. And so he's like, okay, I'm gonna. He's like, you know what? I. Because all the fans are clamoring around the car and they're all pushing up against it and everything. And then like this woman comes and pushes her boobs up against the glass. And he's like, excuse me, I have to sign something. And they distract him and he's like lowering the window. And the woman moves and the guy comes with his full. And then he looks over and he's kind of like committed to it. So he's actually signing it and making these faces. And I was like, they really took that joke and just went with it. Whereas like, in Walk Hard, I mean, granted, it was 10 years, 12 years before pop star, so everything is always like, you try to outdo the last person. So that one, it's. [00:10:32] Speaker B: And they Went to the, to the, to the Dick twice. [00:10:35] Speaker A: They went to like twice in the same scene and then in the end credits again. [00:10:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:38] Speaker C: So the second time they showed it, I just hear you go, oh, man, what the hell? Cracked me. [00:10:46] Speaker A: It was such a perfect 19 year old response to. I mean, I was thinking the same thing, but it was in my head. I didn't say it. This guy just went like. He's like, what the hell? [00:10:55] Speaker B: And it's just like, I have no problem seeing that in movies and tv. Like, I see it all the time. Especially recently. I was watching the Righteous Gemstones and they take every opportunity they can to show Dick on screen, especially an old man character. So I was like, whatever. But it was just like, come on. Like the door was closing and they slowed down on the part of him closing the door where the guy is standing in the sliver of the door. [00:11:18] Speaker A: It's that sort of like overdoing it, kind of like humor, where that's the movie's bread and butter. They were clever things. So I saw it back when it came out on video and it, you know, I've been kind of like the biggest guy to talk about how we don't have to go back to the theater. I don't really believe necessarily that the theatrical experience is the only experience. Especially because theaters themselves are not putting in the effort to make it a good experience. That's kind of where I'm coming from. But I do have to say that the one thing for sure that makes movies better is comedies is seeing them with an. Because I watched it by myself and I was like, yeah, you know, it's. Yeah, it's all right. Watching it. You guys made it much funnier, I think just sharing that, hearing each other laugh and also just being like, what the fuck? Made the movie play better for me the second time. But I did notice there are some clever touches in there, like beyond just a juvenile. Yeah. Which I just said twice and isn't funny anymore. [00:12:15] Speaker B: What? Is that a word? [00:12:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:17] Speaker B: Okay. [00:12:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:18] Speaker B: Never heard it. [00:12:19] Speaker A: I mean, I'm going to go with that. Okay, I believe. [00:12:20] Speaker B: I believe you. [00:12:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it is. If not, I've used it before and people just smiled and said, sure. [00:12:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:27] Speaker A: I love that his. That they make a big point of his cultural appropriation. [00:12:31] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. [00:12:32] Speaker A: That his big break is just basically taking the act of a black man doing it verbatim and then he's the one who gets to be the big star. [00:12:42] Speaker B: And then the other guy's like, that's my act. [00:12:44] Speaker A: The guy from the office, which was named. I know his name, but I forget it right now. [00:12:48] Speaker B: I know his name in the office. It's Daryl, but I don't know. [00:12:50] Speaker A: It's Daryl from the Office, but let me check. I'm gonna have IMDb up here. [00:12:53] Speaker C: Fun of Elvis So much. [00:12:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:55] Speaker A: And again, I don't think they were making fun of Elvis. They were making fun of bad impressions of Elvis in bio movies. That's the way I saw it. Rather it was that it's so ridiculous. Like they get a guy who looks nothing like Elvis. [00:13:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:07] Speaker A: They just kind of give him some grease back hair. Yeah. And just. It just says the catchphrases just like, you know, and that's what the movie does a lot is that it sort of points out how these music biopics like always take the easy way out and are always like, the people are always self aware of the time. [00:13:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:24] Speaker A: That they're in. Because like, you know this one, when they're in the 60s, they're like, we're in the 60s. It's like it feels. I could feel the love in the air. And something's changing, you know. [00:13:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:32] Speaker B: And it's funny because they did the lyric from the song, Something's happening here. Right. But then he just also, when the. With the Elvis thing to your. Like what you mentioned earlier, when Buddy Holly is there and he's like, oh, thank you, Buddy Holly. [00:13:44] Speaker A: Thank you, Buddy Holly. Like saying his full name each time that. That to me was. Was. I think the greatest kind of running gag was. Was how they would. They would keep doing that. [00:13:54] Speaker C: You know, that for the Beatles. Well, it's us. [00:13:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Here in India, you know, or. Or when Paul Rudd is as John Lennon, he's like, could you. And he looks at the camera. Imagine. [00:14:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:07] Speaker A: Just like. And like I especially Walk the Line just did all that kind of shit, you know. And ironically, of course, Walk the Line directed by James Mangold, whose mediocrity shone through in that movie. Thank you, Alex. For some reason, Alex likes James Mangold. [00:14:21] Speaker B: I don't mind him. I like a good music. I like a basic music biopic. I've said it before. [00:14:25] Speaker A: As long as it's not Better Man. [00:14:28] Speaker B: Yeah, as long as it's not Better man. Because that shit sucks. I'm kidding. You guys know my opinion on Better Man. If you go and listen to our previous episode. [00:14:34] Speaker A: Yes. [00:14:34] Speaker B: We spoke about Better Man. I also love that they keep like the age thing. He's like. They keep saying his age. He's like you're 21 years old. [00:14:42] Speaker A: Or when he's 14 and it's already John C. Wiley. [00:14:46] Speaker B: The dad just keeps repeating the wrong kid dad. And the wife, she's like, what is this? She says, she's like, you're never going [00:14:54] Speaker C: to be a kid. [00:14:55] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. What is. Okay, I have to go through the cast list because I. I know all these people, but I don't remember their names right now because I'm feel like I'm under the gun because it's also the one who plays his first wife is famous from Saturday Night Live. Also. Alex, can you help me out with this one? [00:15:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I got you. [00:15:12] Speaker A: Let me see. We will cut out this slow. No sound. I IMDb has. Really? [00:15:19] Speaker B: Is it Kristen Wiig? [00:15:21] Speaker A: Yes, Kristen Wiig. [00:15:22] Speaker B: And then Jenna Fisher plays. [00:15:23] Speaker A: Jenna Fisher plays the second wife. And where Tim Meadows as. As his drummer. You don't want any part is. [00:15:30] Speaker B: Dude, you don't want any part. In the beginning when. When the guy is looking for him and he's like, you got to give him a second. He's thinking about his whole life. [00:15:39] Speaker A: His whole life. [00:15:40] Speaker B: That's such a classic movie, dude. [00:15:42] Speaker A: Like, I mean, that's how Walk the Line starts. [00:15:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:46] Speaker A: Craig Robinson is. He plays Bobby Shad in this. [00:15:50] Speaker B: Okay. [00:15:51] Speaker C: I cannot believe how many recognizable actors they got. [00:15:55] Speaker A: Yes. [00:15:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:15:56] Speaker C: It did not stop. [00:15:58] Speaker B: Yeah, they got everybody, like, with. [00:16:01] Speaker A: At the end, like, it was Lyle Lovett, Jewel. And then Eddie Vedder came out also. [00:16:06] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:16:07] Speaker A: So actually, when I said Lyle Lovett and Jewel, did you guys know what I'm talking about? [00:16:11] Speaker B: I got. I put it together after you said Eddie Vedder, but you do you know [00:16:16] Speaker A: those guys, like, outside of this? No, you don't know, man. Jewel used to be huge. Lyle Lovett was always kind of more. He was like a. He's a kind of country artist, kind of famous pop culturally, because he married Julia Roberts and him got married. [00:16:29] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:16:30] Speaker A: For a while. Yeah. [00:16:30] Speaker B: I gotta see this guy's face. [00:16:32] Speaker A: He's not a handsome man. That's why it was what. We were all laughing at the time because we were all very superf. Official and surface level. We're like, what is she doing with that guy? Because. [00:16:40] Speaker B: Oh, that's Lyle. Love it. [00:16:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:16:43] Speaker B: Okay. I knew who he. I knew his face when I saw him in the movie, but I didn't know his name. [00:16:47] Speaker A: Okay. [00:16:47] Speaker B: Okay. [00:16:48] Speaker A: It's just so sad because Jewel was like one of, like, the biggest. Like, she was almost like Taylor Swift. Ish. You know, big and one at one point. And like, now nobody knows who she is. [00:16:55] Speaker B: She had a great voice, though. Yeah. [00:16:57] Speaker A: Yeah. I was gonna say. Oh, and then you mentioned Margo Martindale as his mom. Margo Martindale is like. She's done, like, a lot of TV since. And, like, she did a movie where she. It's a serious movie where she literally plays that same character where. Except for this case, it's. It's. It's in the 50s, 60s, and it's literally the same kind of like, it's in the same house. It's the same kind of parents, except for the main character comes out as gay and his father doesn't accept him. And so she. He literally is just like, won't talk to him. And it's kind of like, you're not my son anymore. And she's like, but Paul, he's a good boy, you know? And then I was like, you literally are playing the same fucking character. Except for now it's serious. I forgot the name of the movie. It wasn't terrible, actually. It was directed by the guy who wrote American Beauty. Oh, so the guy who did in. No. Not in Cold Blood. The vampire show. [00:17:55] Speaker B: A lot of searching names today. [00:17:56] Speaker A: Yeah. I feel very unprofessional. It's just one of those things where, like, I know these things, but, like, when I'm on Mike, I'm just like. I can't think of. It wasn't a great movie. Wasn't a terrible movie. But I do sort of remember it. And I'm gonna look for it. All right. Somebody else start talking while I'm looking for. She has so many things that she did. What? [00:18:22] Speaker C: I have no idea. [00:18:23] Speaker B: Oh, dude. I can't think of anything. I'm sorry. I'm like. [00:18:28] Speaker A: That's the tough thing about talking about comedies in general because, like, there's not always that much to dig into. Yeah. To analyze. [00:18:36] Speaker B: Yeah. There really isn't. I mean, it's kind of the same. Not script, but it's very. It has Judd Apatow all over. And we know he was one of the co writers. [00:18:47] Speaker A: He co wrote it with Jay Kasdan. [00:18:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:49] Speaker A: Who was. Who directed it. [00:18:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:51] Speaker A: I should. I'm gonna put a movie. Actually, it made. It reminded me because Jake. So Jake hasn't. [00:18:55] Speaker B: His. [00:18:55] Speaker A: Lawrence Kazden's son. [00:18:56] Speaker B: Oh, really? Yeah. [00:18:57] Speaker A: Lawrence Kasdan. Stephanie, I don't mean to say I'm singling you out, but, like, I just, like. I know. Like, it's not because you're a girl that you don't notice But I know that you don't notice because I don't [00:19:06] Speaker C: know names of things. [00:19:07] Speaker A: Right. I would say famous writer, director, but sort of known within geek circles as like, he co wrote Empire Strikes Back. And what else did he do? He did he. I think he worked on the. Indiana Jones' Excuse me, let's see here. [00:19:23] Speaker B: Yeah. On Raiders of the Lost Ark. [00:19:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:26] Speaker A: And like a solo director. Like, he's. He's known for the Big Chill. The Big Chill was kind of. That was the big one. And then Silverado, which was cool Western. [00:19:35] Speaker B: Oh, man, I just got. Wow. [00:19:36] Speaker A: This. [00:19:36] Speaker B: This movie just reminded me of the first time I saw it. Silverado, this poster. Wow. [00:19:42] Speaker A: It's a good movie. Maybe a little too long, but it's good anyway. Oh, I was gonna say that. I haven't finished a single thought. I think it must be the monster. [00:19:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:50] Speaker A: Jake Kasdan's first movie was called Zero Effect with Ben Stiller. Let me see that. Nobody remembers it. I was working at Blockbuster when it came out, so I rented it. I remember watching. I remember liking it. And I remember everybody saying, like, anybody who has seen it is always like, because it bombed in theaters. Like, nobody remembers it. And everybody always says this movie's great. And it's like one, like. Like these slept on movies. And I don't remember anything from it. I remember a guy like in a. On a microphone was Bill Pullman. Remember a little bit of Ben Stiller. It's like a. It's like a detective movie. [00:20:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:26] Speaker A: And I think that like, Bill Pullman is like the genius detective, but he's kind of. He's agoraphobic. I think he doesn't leave the house. And so he has been. Stiller sort of do everything for him. So he's kind of like his muscle and his. The legs. And I think I'm going to put it in the bowl because I would like us to watch it and see if we can find something. If it actually is sort of like the unheralded classic that I remember the Reputation suggested and that I seem to remember it being when I saw it, even though I can't remember Zero Effect. A lot of movies I'm going to put in the bowl because as we said, my movies don't get picked. [00:20:57] Speaker B: It doesn't matter. It's going to be really funny if today when we pick it's. [00:21:01] Speaker A: Are we going to pick today? I was going to. I was wondering about this. We still have Magnolia on the. Magnolia Fucking and A. We still have Magnolia. [00:21:08] Speaker B: Oh, man. I'M excited to rewatch that. I needed an excuse to do. [00:21:10] Speaker A: So you just watched it recently. [00:21:12] Speaker B: It's good. It's a good movie. You know what else is good? The songs in this movie. I actually really liked it. I was listening to the soundtrack afterwards because I was like, man, walkart is actually a good song. Like, I actually enjoyed it. I thought they did a fantastic job [00:21:24] Speaker C: while we were watching it. Every time they played a song, I was just like. I was like, dang, why is this actually good? [00:21:29] Speaker B: Why is it actually good? [00:21:30] Speaker C: Supposed to be making fun of music. [00:21:32] Speaker A: Yeah, well, but that's. That's. I think good comedy is also like that. They're not making the songs bad. Like, they actually are. Like, because. Has to be. They're emulating these songs that were sort of big and popular, so they kind of have to, you know, do it in that vein. And also, like, they know that you're gonna be watching the movie. So, like, why put shitty music on? [00:21:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:50] Speaker A: It is funny because Jessica came to me when she was just a week ago before we had decided to watch this one, and she was again, trying to get me to watch it. She came in and she put the song on, the midget one. Which. Which again, are we allowed to say midget? I don't know. [00:22:03] Speaker B: They say it in the movie. [00:22:04] Speaker A: In part. A movie. [00:22:05] Speaker B: In context. [00:22:06] Speaker A: Yes. In context of the movie person. We still haven't figured it out. I haven't figured it out. [00:22:12] Speaker B: Call. [00:22:12] Speaker A: I can't say I Googled it or anything. [00:22:14] Speaker C: I'm going to Google it. [00:22:16] Speaker B: What's the PC term? So Jessica played you the song to get you to. [00:22:20] Speaker A: Yeah. And she had the reactions, you guys, that she was like, I feel bad because I really like this song. [00:22:24] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a good song. [00:22:26] Speaker A: And, like, you don't want to pump that up. So you're out in public and he's singing about midgets, you know, but. But yeah, it's funny that you guys said that because Jessica was saying the exact same thing. She's like. She's like, I really like this song, actually. I wonder who wrote them. Did we. Did we sit through the end credits? Did we see. Who was it actually Judd Apatow and Jay Kazan who actually wrote the songs also, Or. [00:22:45] Speaker B: I'm not sure. I think Stephanie has something, though. [00:22:47] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Apparently, midget is considered a slur, and they prefer little person. [00:22:53] Speaker B: Okay. [00:22:53] Speaker A: Okay. [00:22:54] Speaker B: So we've been saying slurs for the past 20 minutes. [00:22:56] Speaker A: Great. Whatever. [00:22:58] Speaker C: I saw a joke one time that someone said that midget and the N word are not the same because everybody says midget. [00:23:07] Speaker A: They have no problem. [00:23:08] Speaker C: They're not even saying what the N word is. [00:23:10] Speaker B: Yeah, okay, so that's a good point. It says here singer songwriters Dan Byrne and Mike Viola of the Candy Butchers wrote most of the film's songs, including There's a change happening. Life without you is no life at all. Beautiful Ride. Let's do it. Several songs, actually. [00:23:27] Speaker A: Let's do it was funny. [00:23:28] Speaker B: This was hilarious. [00:23:29] Speaker A: All the double entendres. [00:23:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:31] Speaker A: You know, and. And just even itself. Let's do it. Like, it's so clever. [00:23:34] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:23:35] Speaker A: Because guys, it sounds like, let's do it. I'm glad I had to explain that. Wait, there's something I wanted to check. Hold on. Keep talking. [00:23:41] Speaker B: In the meantime while you do that, I just thought of now when we were watching. While we were talking. There's a scene at the beginning where he's singing the song, like the first song he sings at the talent show. And everybody's like, like hears it and they're like, confused. And then like, people just like start dancing uncontrollably. And all the people in the crowd are like, this is devil music. I've seen that in like 10 different movies. [00:24:01] Speaker A: Yes. [00:24:01] Speaker B: And in the Bob Dylan movie, when he plays at Newport, like for the first time that he comes out and he starts playing electric, the same thing happens. Like, everybody's like, oh, offended. And then you see like all the young people get up and they're like jamming along and then all the. Which it actually happened in real life that way. But even in the movie when they retell it, it looks just like beat for beat, like a copy of, of this movie. And the people in the crowd are yelling like Judas. They were like calling him all types of stuff because he went electric. [00:24:27] Speaker C: But did they punch a priest? [00:24:29] Speaker B: They didn't punch a priest. [00:24:30] Speaker A: Oh my gosh. [00:24:31] Speaker B: Yeah. That shows. [00:24:31] Speaker A: Hilarious. [00:24:33] Speaker B: Yeah, they punched the priests. What else did they do? There's like just like horrible stuff going on in the crowd. [00:24:37] Speaker A: The women ripping their shirts. [00:24:38] Speaker B: Open their shirts. Dude. When they were at the, at the club, like at the, like the juke joint and they were dancing, the guy just keeps going. People come here to dance erotically. We can't not have music. And they were just dancing, like, basically [00:24:54] Speaker A: like, like they were just doing sex. Yeah. Yeah. [00:24:57] Speaker B: It's funny cuz they cut. It's so funny cuz they cut away to wood where the guy is just like humping in front of the girl's face. [00:25:05] Speaker A: Yeah. And like, taking her head. Yeah, it was, but it was the way he said it. [00:25:11] Speaker C: They need a clean floor to do it all. [00:25:12] Speaker A: Yes, exactly. They need a clean floor to dance erotically. [00:25:16] Speaker B: And also, he's wearing a hair that. To clean the floor. It made no sense. [00:25:21] Speaker C: Just the generic job that every musician. [00:25:24] Speaker A: Yes. [00:25:24] Speaker C: Before they get big. [00:25:26] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And. And again, you. When you were talking about how his first wife is, like, he marries her. She's 4. Like, she's 12. Yeah. He's 14, which, of course, is Jerry Lee Lewis, because he married his underage cousin. [00:25:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:39] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's what they were making fun of there. Yeah. And they made a movie. It was called Great Balls of Fire, which was Dennis Quaid playing Jerry Lee Lewis. And Wynonna Ryder, I want to say, was his child bride. [00:25:50] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. [00:25:50] Speaker A: And what was Kristen Wiig? [00:25:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:53] Speaker A: And you were saying how she's the running gag, that she's always like, you're not gonna make it. Do it. And then, like, he's made it, and she's still like, you're not gonna make it. My favorite was when they're hanging up the phone and she's like, I love you, I love you. I love you. Not gonna make it. But we're gonna have to kind of try to dig in deeper because this is gonna be like Hundreds of Beavers where we're just gonna talk about our favorite jokes in the movies. Let me see. Yeah. I mean, this is a funny note that. A funny now note. Because I'm just like, the jokes are all right. You know, it was where I wrote my note. But what I really like was how he skewered, like, the music biopic conventions, you know, like. Like, that, to me, was the funniest stuff, a lot of it that we mentioned. Just, like, the bad imitations. Which reminds me of terrible Liam in. In Better Man. [00:26:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:35] Speaker A: You know, and again, just taking the most obvious route for everything. So it's like, you know, if you have Elvis Presley, he's going to be like, I'm going to do karate. Yeah. You know, like just the most ridiculous things that we associate with Elvis. Stephanie, it feels like you want to say something. [00:26:50] Speaker C: And I don't watch a lot of biopics, so I didn't realize how generic it was that in Betterman, he broke everything until I saw this movie. And he starts breaking every sink. [00:27:02] Speaker A: It's always a sink. [00:27:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:03] Speaker C: He just starts smashing everything every time he gets angry. And I was cracking up because I was so mad how right you guys were. About it. Because every time he got mad in Better man, he's like, smashed a mirror. [00:27:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:15] Speaker B: Or sink. [00:27:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:16] Speaker C: See him just rip all the sinks off the wall. [00:27:18] Speaker A: That was the best one. It's just the whole line of sinks. [00:27:21] Speaker C: I was dying. [00:27:22] Speaker B: And I mean, even the drugs, like in Better man, whenever he starts doing drugs, the drug, like trip scenes are exactly the same. Not trips, but like when he's freaking out or almost beat for beat. Exactly the same as in Walk Hard. And like we mentioned earlier, every time he walked into the bathroom, he's like, you don't want any part of this dude. [00:27:38] Speaker A: Tim Meadows is. Is such a. Such an underrated comedian. And like, his line delivery is so great. And just like how, like, I don't know, like, it' sort of like he's saying it straight, but he's smiling with his eyes. Yeah. He's like, you don't want any part is. [00:27:49] Speaker C: Do we take all your bad thoughts into good thoughts? [00:27:52] Speaker A: I love. I love the. When he's trying to talk him out of smoking weed. And it's just like everything that he says, he's like, you know, he's like, oh, I don't want to get addicted to that. And he was like, oh, no, it's not addicting. Oh, it's non habit forming. [00:28:06] Speaker B: And going back to what we were talking about earlier with the. The wife and how she keeps saying she's not going to make it. When I was watching it, I couldn't help but to keep thinking about the relationship between Robbie Williams and. I forget her name from All Saints. [00:28:21] Speaker A: Nicole. [00:28:22] Speaker B: Nicole Appleton. And I think even at one movie, at one point. I'm sorry, at one movie, at one point in the movie, they allude to the fact that she's the only, like, developed character. I think she, like, says it out loud. [00:28:31] Speaker A: I think she says it. Yeah. [00:28:32] Speaker B: And it's like we. We literally talked about that when we did Better Man. How Nicole Appleton's character was the only one that was developed. And her whole thing was that she would just get mad at him for doing drugs and not being present. Yeah. [00:28:43] Speaker A: Which is what? Yeah. [00:28:44] Speaker B: Which is what? [00:28:44] Speaker A: Yeah, what? Jenna Fisher's the character. [00:28:46] Speaker C: Again, you're never gonna make it. But now that you made it, you're never home. [00:28:49] Speaker A: Yeah. You're never home. Yeah. And then what was the other one? It was when he goes on the apology tour at the end and he's like, apologizing to all his bandmates. It's the same thing. [00:28:59] Speaker B: Yes. They do the thing where it's like he Goes on a montage of showing up at everybody's door and they hug it out and they're fine and they're all old now. Did the same exact. [00:29:07] Speaker A: And yeah, yeah. And Better Man. [00:29:09] Speaker B: And even the final performance where it's like, we literally. You spent the whole movie ruining everybody's life, like, being a total to everybody. Your band breaks up, and then all of a sudden, you, in five minutes, make amends, and now you're doing this big performance where everybody's, like, revering you and, like, cheery on for you. [00:29:25] Speaker A: And I will say that Walk hard at least goes the. The one step, because there's the one guy who. He slept with his wife. [00:29:30] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:29:31] Speaker A: The guitar player, I think. And, like, he at least punches Dewey in the face. Nobody gets that chance. In. In Better Man, I will say, at [00:29:38] Speaker C: least there was that whole montage where he reconciled his relationship with his kids. [00:29:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:43] Speaker C: And, like, he had, like, 50 kids. [00:29:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:46] Speaker C: And he just goes on this whole thing where he teaches all of them how to play catch and helps them become better people. [00:29:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:51] Speaker C: And then I think at least he earned it. He did something to make himself look better in the eyes of the audience. [00:29:57] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:29:59] Speaker A: And they're sort of taking, like, this obvious joke, you know, of, like, oh, they're playing catch over 20 years, you know, and now they're all. They're all a big, happy family. Course, they did, like, a Partridge Family joke because he's driving the. The bus with the kids on there. [00:30:10] Speaker B: Kids in it. Yeah. And they're singing in the back. [00:30:12] Speaker A: And they're singing in the back, fighting each other. Of course. Of course. [00:30:16] Speaker B: He also looked a lot like Jim Morrison in that period. Like, when he has the beard and the long hair. He looked a lot like they. It looked like they were ripping off, like, later, like, Post Door. [00:30:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:26] Speaker A: Well, yeah. I mean, it dips into everything, right? So, I mean, you know, and you. It. I don't want to say. I'm going to say something that's going to be obvious. It may not be obvious to you, Stephanie. I'm just. You know. But I don't want to. I also don't want to say it to Alex in the sense of, like. Because I know Alex knows what this was. The whole thing was when he's recording with, like, the 40 people, you know, and all that. Like, it was Brian Wilson, rip. [00:30:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:52] Speaker A: From. From the Beach Boys. Like, he. He basically drove himself insane trying. Well, it's a mixture, right? Because this was. This was how he. How they recorded Pet Sounds. [00:31:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:02] Speaker A: Which was the Beach Boys answer to the Beatles Sergeant Pepper. So you know how that one's, like, all crazy, you know, instrumentation and experimentation. And so when the Beach Boys heard that, they're like, we're gonna do that, too. And it was mostly like, Brian Wilson, who was kind of pushing for that. And then eventually he went too far. And he was trying to do an album called Smile. And he basically drove himself insane because he just kept kind of building things onto it and was like, I can't finish my masterpiece. So that's kind of what they were. [00:31:28] Speaker C: Oh, that's cool. [00:31:29] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what they were referencing there. I hope I didn't talk down to you. I hope I didn't mansplain. I just love, like, sharing things. So. Yeah. And I would do it to Alex, but Alex already knows everything I know, so there's no point in that. Apparently, I do know more about New Order than you, so we'll talk about that. [00:31:45] Speaker B: Oh, definitely. [00:31:45] Speaker A: At some point. [00:31:46] Speaker B: I know nothing about New Order. Barely anything. Yeah. [00:31:48] Speaker A: Or as Peter Hook, their ex basis, calls them, New Odor. Okay, funny. [00:31:53] Speaker B: Yeah, funny enough. [00:31:55] Speaker A: Funny enough. Let me check my notes. 4. What else did I write down? [00:32:00] Speaker B: I have to leave soon, guys. [00:32:02] Speaker A: Okay. Oh, 459 already. [00:32:04] Speaker B: Cool. [00:32:05] Speaker A: Yeah, well, we don't have that much to say. I liked some of the subtle things, like when he and his and the Jenna Fisher character finally hook up. And it goes into the 60s montage after that. The song playing after they hook up is called Come Together. [00:32:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:19] Speaker A: And then also, see, they meet on the. And then also that it's the most obvious song that you. Stephanie's losing it. [00:32:30] Speaker B: That's fantastic, dude. When they're, like, pushing each other and they just keep pushing each other after he did rehab, they just keep pushing each other into the wall. [00:32:39] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. It's always like, the violent makeout session. And she pushes him. That's right. I forgot him. [00:32:44] Speaker B: Or like, you know when they keep, like, yes. [00:32:47] Speaker A: Or when he comes towards her and she goes back and then she goes to him. Like, yeah, that was good. But yeah, like, there were still some. And also, like, go ahead. [00:32:56] Speaker B: I hadn't realized. [00:32:57] Speaker A: But it works on two levels because it's come together. So, like, of course we know that means. But then also, like, it is the most obvious song that every movie when it shows the 60s, like, that's a song that they put on there. So, like, it. It's. It works on. On. On two levels, so. [00:33:09] Speaker C: Multiple levels. [00:33:10] Speaker A: Yes, it's multiple levels, so it's good stuff. I wrote down, please Beatles, stop fighting here in India. Like, everything has to be said, you know, so the audience can understand. Well, it is the 70s is the 70s. [00:33:27] Speaker B: I was so mad that when they were telling him to go to rehab, they didn't do an Amy Winehouse joke where he just started singing. I know it wasn't the time period, but I would have been so funny if he started singing that song. They want me to go to rehab. Oh, I would have loved that. [00:33:39] Speaker A: I remember you said something like, Amy Winehouse, and I was like, no. Oh. And then also the simple solutions to big problems. You know, like, he goes to. To confront his dad after all. And, audience, I will let you see what happens. But it reminded me again, like, Better man. Like, how we were saying, like, how it's just like he goes to one rehab session and suddenly everything's fixed. [00:34:03] Speaker B: The relationship with him. That final monologue with him and his dad was like, a lot like the one in Better Man. Yeah. [00:34:11] Speaker A: So I am really glad that we watched it because Stephanie kind of saw I. You at least understand where we're coming from as far as the cliches that. That really bugged us. [00:34:22] Speaker C: Now. I feel like Better man would actually be better for me if he fought his dad physically. [00:34:28] Speaker A: 100%. [00:34:28] Speaker C: Robbie Williams beat the crap out of his dad. [00:34:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:31] Speaker C: It would make it so much better. [00:34:33] Speaker A: Rather than him fighting his ape, younger versions of himself as an ape form, just him and his dad would have [00:34:38] Speaker C: had it up the absolute shit out of his dad. [00:34:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:41] Speaker C: And I would have been like, yes. Now you deserve your applause. [00:34:43] Speaker A: Yes. [00:34:44] Speaker C: You won against your father. [00:34:46] Speaker A: But remember, his father was. Was a great dad after all. After everything that we saw. Because. Because they did a duet together. Yeah. So everything was forgiven. [00:34:53] Speaker B: They sang My Way Together. [00:34:54] Speaker A: Yeah, they sang My Way Together. [00:34:56] Speaker C: Let's do it. [00:34:56] Speaker A: Yeah. They should have sang let's do it. Calling Dr. Oedipus. [00:35:02] Speaker C: That's what it felt like. [00:35:03] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I kind of want to leave out, like, she's. Do I want to leave on at the end of the day, like, for me, though, like, just kind of looking at the movie as a whole. Like I said, I enjoyed it more watching it with you guys, because it is sort of like you do a communal experience, especially comedy. But no, I guess it's just me as a person. Like, I like comedies, but only to a point. You know how some people are like, oh, I can't take an animated movie seriously, Which I call those people assholes. But I sort of see I guess that's the feeling I have with comedies where I get tired of them after a little bit. Like, like even this one, like by like the midpoint, I was like, all right, right, let's kind of, let's start wrapping things up, you know, like, and for me, I guess what happens more is like, I end up kind of like watching, like it historically happens to me all the time. Like it happened with Austin Powers. Like, I saw it in theaters and I was like, I guess it's funny, whatever, you know. But like, when I, when I showed up on cable and I could just watch it in sections, like, that's kind of when I fell in love with it because it would just be like I would just watch certain portions over and over again. But usually when I have to watch these things from beginning to end because it's not a real story. It's not. You're not really trying, you know, you're just making fun of something. You're just making jokes. Like, it's bores me almost in the same way. Like, Better man bored me where it's again, like, there's nothing much to get into beyond, like, in Better man, you just get into if you like the musical numbers and the songs and things like that, but as a movie, there's nothing much to dig your teeth into, I think. Walk hard. We did say that there is more to it than that, but still at the. At its core, like, it's just a silly comedy. And like, and that, that there's just a natural, like, it just loses me at some point. [00:36:44] Speaker C: I actually love comedies to the point where I can watch them non stop forever just because, like, for me, every time I watch like a stupid comedy movie, which German says is my lack in taste, but screw him. [00:36:59] Speaker A: He also mocked our use of self aggrandizing. [00:37:01] Speaker C: So yeah, he should be here for this. [00:37:03] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I want to have a few words with German. Little mad there, but like, see if any of your movies get picked. I'm sorry, continue. [00:37:10] Speaker C: Every time I watch those movies, it feels like a break from having to use my brain endlessly. Okay, so, like, it feels like I could sit down and just like, let myself be carried away by like the stupid, funny, raunchy humor that I don't necessarily have to think about because they're such surface level jokes that I can kind of just sit there and be dumb, go ha ha and eat my popcorn. And like, I feel like I could do that for a while. Like, I don't ever get bored of it because it's Such, like a good happy experience for me. Like, I don't know, it's like a little dopamine rush every time I watch a comedic movie. [00:37:45] Speaker B: Oh, go ahead. [00:37:46] Speaker A: No, I think that's great. I wish. I don't. I don't know. I don't know. For me, I continue. Actually, I talk too much. [00:37:54] Speaker B: No, I was gonna say, I think it's the perfect balance, actually, because you have that side. Stephanie is the opposite. And I feel like somewhere in between, you guys were like. Like, I love, like just watching a stupid ass comedy where I could just like hang out. Especially like we were talking about, like, when you're with a group of people, it's so funny. Yeah, but at some point during comedy movies, it always happens to me where some point in the middle, I stop laughing out loud. It's like it. Since. Since it's like telling me to laugh. Like, since I know I'm supposed to laugh. Like I'm laughing on the inside and I think it's funny, but it's not like it. It has to be a joke that really catches me for me to be like, laugh out loud. [00:38:29] Speaker A: Or. [00:38:29] Speaker B: It works better when you're with a group of people and everybody's laughing. It's kind of like a mass laug. [00:38:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:34] Speaker B: So it makes you laugh too. But like. Yeah, I get where Paul's coming from. Where it's like you start watching a comedy, especially like these raunchy comedies, and at some point you're like, okay, this is still funny, but I'm not like dying laughing the whole time through. [00:38:44] Speaker A: Or like, it's just. There's nothing much for me to kind of like dig into because, like, again, like, I just. When I watch movies, like, I. This is what I'm afraid of saying because it's that stupid sounding thing where it's like, well, I watch movies on a deeper level. No, it's not. I don't watch them on a deeper level. But I guess I'm just so used to having to read deeper into it that when a movie doesn't really. And again, we said Lockhart does have some elements to it. Like, it's not stupid. Do we have to cut off? Is that. [00:39:10] Speaker C: No, I almost burp. [00:39:11] Speaker A: Oh, burp it. I lost mine now, so that's too bad. The. I kind of lost my. That's okay, that's fair. That's good. No, no, no, no. I did it to you when I actually burped into the microphone. Yeah, it just happens to me where I almost feel like I'm Wasting my time where I know I should be watching something with. With. With a little more for me to dig into, which is complete. Because if it's an action movie, I can watch it all day long, so I don't know. [00:39:35] Speaker B: Or when I throw something deep and dark into the bowl, you're like, oh. [00:39:40] Speaker A: What we're finding out here is that I am just a big ball of. Hey. Hey. When I have the word in my head. Contradictions. [00:39:47] Speaker B: Okay. [00:39:48] Speaker A: I don't know my words. Like, I have them in my head. I have them ready, and then the moment I'm supposed to come out with it, my brain says, oh, why don't you say deconstruction instead? I'm like, well, I know that's not the word ball. [00:39:56] Speaker B: Deconstruction. [00:39:57] Speaker A: I'm a big ball of deconstruction. [00:39:59] Speaker B: Your ball of contradiction. [00:40:00] Speaker A: Yeah. We should stop referring to me as a ball. I don't like it especially. Well, I had so many boba balls today. I'm a brick. A. I'm a brick And. And I'm drowning slowly. Ben Folds. No, she's a brick. She's a brick and I. No, there was. There was a famous song. She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly off the coast. [00:40:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I get it. [00:40:20] Speaker A: She's a brick and I'm drowning. [00:40:22] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Thank you. [00:40:23] Speaker A: You're very welcome. My falsetto is really good. [00:40:25] Speaker B: Good. [00:40:27] Speaker A: It's about abortion. [00:40:28] Speaker B: Oh. [00:40:28] Speaker A: She aborted his baby. And. Okay, cool. So let's go around the table. I don't mean to rush anybody. Alex has to get going. Probably has to get a haircut. Is it a haircut? [00:40:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:44] Speaker C: Oh, my gosh. [00:40:44] Speaker A: Haircut. 100. I told you. [00:40:46] Speaker B: It was supposed to be tomorrow, but I had to move it because, you know, happens. [00:40:48] Speaker A: Shit happens. Okay. Around the table. Shall we go? Yeah, let's do our. How many pauls you give it? Then we're gonna go around again and do our. Watch this. [00:40:58] Speaker B: It's so funny. [00:41:03] Speaker A: You forgot already? Stephanie, let's start with you. How many pauls do you give it? [00:41:07] Speaker C: I'm gonna give it three and a half pauls. [00:41:09] Speaker A: Out of four. [00:41:10] Speaker C: Because I can't give it four as a comedy. I don't know if that makes any sense. [00:41:14] Speaker A: I mean, from what I just said. [00:41:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I get it. [00:41:16] Speaker A: I mean, Roger will kill me for that, but. [00:41:17] Speaker C: Yeah, but I would recommend it. I do genuinely, genuinely like it. [00:41:21] Speaker A: Cool. [00:41:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:22] Speaker A: Alejandro. [00:41:23] Speaker B: I'm also gonna give it three and a half out of four. I don't. I hate giving it. Like, I gave It a four and a half on letterbox. I hate giving it a five just because even though it knows what it is and it's not trying to be anything that it's not, I still feel weird giving it a perfect star rating. [00:41:35] Speaker A: We should. We should dig into that. Like, why we are not okay. You know, like. Like, it's almost like we put comedy on, like, a lower tier, which a lot of people would. Would argue with us that we're wrong. And I. And I feel like we are wrong, but I can't help it. [00:41:46] Speaker C: But if we are going back to Dante, Comedy was looked down upon. It was seen as less than a tragedy and that tragedies were like a higher form. That was a nice one. [00:42:00] Speaker A: One day I want a really long, loud one. It's the nerves of being in the studio. I'm sorry. [00:42:06] Speaker C: Dante was like a higher form of writing. So maybe we've still kept that as a society. [00:42:12] Speaker A: I think so. [00:42:12] Speaker B: Yeah. It's that. And also, like. Like, if you give too many perfect ratings to movies, it starts to lose its value because it's like, okay, what am I comparing it off of? [00:42:20] Speaker A: Right. [00:42:20] Speaker B: Even though I don't like to compare it off other movies. But then I feel like if I give, like, something as simple as a comedy, even though it's not that simple, it takes a lot of work. [00:42:27] Speaker A: Yes. [00:42:28] Speaker B: Something as. Yeah, like a comedy. If I give it that perfect rating, then I feel, like, obligated to give it as well to something that's dramatic. And anyway, whatever, That's a different episode. [00:42:37] Speaker A: I like it, though. I think we should kind of explore that in further episodes. I'll give it three. Three Pauls out of four. Perfect. I'm happy with it. And definitely, again, I would watch it in sections and be equally happy watching it as a whole. I get a little bit bored. That's just me around the table. Watch this. Yeah, Stephanie, watch this. Okay. [00:42:59] Speaker C: I don't like doing it individually. [00:43:02] Speaker B: No, you have to. [00:43:03] Speaker A: You can't hide. He can't hide. So if someone walks up to you and is like, stephanie, should I watch this? You would say, hey, watch this. [00:43:08] Speaker C: Yeah, watch this. [00:43:09] Speaker A: Okay. [00:43:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:10] Speaker A: Oh, I can't. Yeah, I didn't hate the movie, so I can't do. Watch this. Watch these. [00:43:14] Speaker B: Is this my turn? [00:43:15] Speaker A: Yes. Alexander Graham Bello. [00:43:16] Speaker B: Oh, yes. Watch this. Okay, that's too enthusiastic. [00:43:20] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. Watch this. Okay, But I don't. I'm not that enthusiastic, so watch this. All right. So hope you guys enjoyed. Watch this. Even though, despite all the penis talk. Until next time. Goodbye.